Just a quick note, after reviewing the stats on this page, via the counter, it baffles me as to WHY people are not posting opposing views, or any views. Much traffic comes from the AMDSB, and people are able to post anonymously. I have taken feedburner down, to allow some dialogue. Yet it seems this blog is yet, just another meeting where the same people talk, (well different people on this blog).
This is a venue for the public, if you are concerned about schools in the area post something, a comment, something angry, something in favour of what the board is doing, anything at all. Obviously the board IS watching, but again public apathy will be the downfall of rural schools. Even if the decision was made prior to forming the ARC, there is always the chance something could change, some comment could turn out to be the tipping point in favour of NMECE or saving Blyth Public School.
Thursday, June 18, 2009
Thursday, June 11, 2009
Invest in Huron County Or Wither
My view on the current state of declining enrollment at F.E. Madill is simple. What Huron County needs is a training facility, be it trades, be it university courses offered, be it C.O.P.E. programmes implemented into the school that utilizes the space. Instead of RENTING downtown storefronts, for C.O.P.E programmes.
The school board thinks that the easy way out is to put twelve and thirteen year old children into the high school system. It's been done, but again it is an easy way out of declining enrollment at F.E. Madill. Blyth Public School is running at capacity, it has low operating costs, yet the board is intent on closing it to feed F.E. Madill. ARC was told to "think outside the box", although the die was already cast, why the board cannot "think outside the box" defies reason. It is shortsighted, and will be an obtuse choice if they do not come up with something more proactive and inventive.
Huron County needs to keep our youngsters and our adults in the county. As soon as a child is put through the system, they leave to post secondary education elsewhere. Why not give opportunity here? There is relatively nothing for adults, nor those who have just graduated. Why not offer university courses, that actually lead to something? Why not give local businesses the opportunity to retrain their employees and continue education HERE?
I have written about this on Facebook. In my high school years, I started off at Oakridge S.S., then transferred to Beal. Beal was akin to the television show "Fame". There was dance, there was automotive, cosmetology, and there was the Vocational Art Diploma.
In my classes (art), I do remember having adults in the course, not only did they give to the programme, but it was an opportunity for them to use the school.
My point is why not invest not only in our youngsters, but in Huron County itself? Give Huron County a draw, a pull, that brings new people into the educational system? Why just have what we have? Yes, Goderich does offer some courses, but North Huron could do the same.
Blyth has a bustling theatre, why not offer Theatre Tech courses through F.E. Madill? It is my understanding that some of these courses have been cut from Fanshawe College. In essence, my point is, make Huron County a place where people want to be, not a place that they have to leave once they become of age, or need a new vocation. Give opportunity, do not deny opportunity.
Young people move out of the county looking for more, and we could give some of them "something more" at a post secondary level. People who have lost jobs in the county have moved away or now travel an hour and a half to better themselves, why not better ourselves in our own county?
Here's what I wrote on Facebook in response to Michele McDonald's question:Post #1
Michele Manjin McDonald wroteon May 27, 2009 at 9:48am
The declining enrollement at FE has left them with space to fill. The board's solution is to put grade 7 & 8's in there, thus, creating space in the elementary schools and having them close. Then, moving our little kids around to the few that remain open. In some cases requiring portables to suport the excess capacity. Instead of putting our 11 and 12 year olds in the highschool, which is greatly opposed by the public, how can they appropriately fill the space? Let's brainstorm some ideas. Who knows, maybe we can have a delegation at the next meeting to present any ideas that could be viable
You wrote on May 27, 2009 at 2:56pm
In my humble opinion, the idea of separating Adult Education from the high school is a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money. These spots could be filled with learning trades, adult classes in art, or other continuing education programmes which Huron County is in dire need of. Trades of all kinds are needed. There is nothing in Huron County for Post Secondary Education. Goderich occasionally offers courses at a university level. Could this not be offered in Wingham? There is nothing for our children here beyond the secondary level, and maybe, we should steer our focus to not only keeping our young children out of the high school culture, but giving some culture back to the adults that live in the community? Welding, Electrical, Carpentry, Automotive, Computer Tech, Steel Workers, Sheet Metal Mechanics, the list is endless. . .Even the odd Philosophy Course would be a bonus. What about even upgrading skills~~companies love that stuff. Better their employees, better morale. It can be done. Actually, one of the high schools I went to offered these courses to adults, Beal S.S. in London, where you could get your Vocational Art Diploma as well as the regular and advanced courses. We had adults in our classes, it was a norm, not an anomaly.
The school board thinks that the easy way out is to put twelve and thirteen year old children into the high school system. It's been done, but again it is an easy way out of declining enrollment at F.E. Madill. Blyth Public School is running at capacity, it has low operating costs, yet the board is intent on closing it to feed F.E. Madill. ARC was told to "think outside the box", although the die was already cast, why the board cannot "think outside the box" defies reason. It is shortsighted, and will be an obtuse choice if they do not come up with something more proactive and inventive.
Huron County needs to keep our youngsters and our adults in the county. As soon as a child is put through the system, they leave to post secondary education elsewhere. Why not give opportunity here? There is relatively nothing for adults, nor those who have just graduated. Why not offer university courses, that actually lead to something? Why not give local businesses the opportunity to retrain their employees and continue education HERE?
I have written about this on Facebook. In my high school years, I started off at Oakridge S.S., then transferred to Beal. Beal was akin to the television show "Fame". There was dance, there was automotive, cosmetology, and there was the Vocational Art Diploma.
In my classes (art), I do remember having adults in the course, not only did they give to the programme, but it was an opportunity for them to use the school.
My point is why not invest not only in our youngsters, but in Huron County itself? Give Huron County a draw, a pull, that brings new people into the educational system? Why just have what we have? Yes, Goderich does offer some courses, but North Huron could do the same.
Blyth has a bustling theatre, why not offer Theatre Tech courses through F.E. Madill? It is my understanding that some of these courses have been cut from Fanshawe College. In essence, my point is, make Huron County a place where people want to be, not a place that they have to leave once they become of age, or need a new vocation. Give opportunity, do not deny opportunity.
Young people move out of the county looking for more, and we could give some of them "something more" at a post secondary level. People who have lost jobs in the county have moved away or now travel an hour and a half to better themselves, why not better ourselves in our own county?
Here's what I wrote on Facebook in response to Michele McDonald's question:Post #1
Michele Manjin McDonald wroteon May 27, 2009 at 9:48am
The declining enrollement at FE has left them with space to fill. The board's solution is to put grade 7 & 8's in there, thus, creating space in the elementary schools and having them close. Then, moving our little kids around to the few that remain open. In some cases requiring portables to suport the excess capacity. Instead of putting our 11 and 12 year olds in the highschool, which is greatly opposed by the public, how can they appropriately fill the space? Let's brainstorm some ideas. Who knows, maybe we can have a delegation at the next meeting to present any ideas that could be viable
You wrote on May 27, 2009 at 2:56pm
In my humble opinion, the idea of separating Adult Education from the high school is a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money. These spots could be filled with learning trades, adult classes in art, or other continuing education programmes which Huron County is in dire need of. Trades of all kinds are needed. There is nothing in Huron County for Post Secondary Education. Goderich occasionally offers courses at a university level. Could this not be offered in Wingham? There is nothing for our children here beyond the secondary level, and maybe, we should steer our focus to not only keeping our young children out of the high school culture, but giving some culture back to the adults that live in the community? Welding, Electrical, Carpentry, Automotive, Computer Tech, Steel Workers, Sheet Metal Mechanics, the list is endless. . .Even the odd Philosophy Course would be a bonus. What about even upgrading skills~~companies love that stuff. Better their employees, better morale. It can be done. Actually, one of the high schools I went to offered these courses to adults, Beal S.S. in London, where you could get your Vocational Art Diploma as well as the regular and advanced courses. We had adults in our classes, it was a norm, not an anomaly.
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
Funding~~ Not for NMECE
North Huron has been approved for a little funding,
but it's not earmarked for NMECE,
as the board would like some parents to assume. It is for a JK-6 school. Still our 7 and 8's will be put into highschool, schools would still be closed (including Blyth). Why not make it a middle school instead?
http://www.1017theone.ca/news.php
Province Provides Money for New School in North Huron Area
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:50 am
The Avon Maitland District School Board is going to get the funding it needed to build a new school in the North Huron area.Five schools in the area are currently involved in an accommodation review.Building a new school for students from Blyth, Turnberry and East Wawanosh was a conditional recommendation from staff, providing funding was available.Huron-Bruce M-P-P Carol Mitchell told board members yesterday they would receive 8.8 million dollars for school construction.Superintendent, Mike Ash, says the board will now have decide how to use the funding.(Click arrow for audio or right click to download)Ash and board chair, Jenny Versteeg, stressed that no decision has been made on the North Huron accommodation review but the funding does give the board more options.
but it's not earmarked for NMECE,
as the board would like some parents to assume. It is for a JK-6 school. Still our 7 and 8's will be put into highschool, schools would still be closed (including Blyth). Why not make it a middle school instead?
http://www.1017theone.ca/news.php
Province Provides Money for New School in North Huron Area
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:50 am
The Avon Maitland District School Board is going to get the funding it needed to build a new school in the North Huron area.Five schools in the area are currently involved in an accommodation review.Building a new school for students from Blyth, Turnberry and East Wawanosh was a conditional recommendation from staff, providing funding was available.Huron-Bruce M-P-P Carol Mitchell told board members yesterday they would receive 8.8 million dollars for school construction.Superintendent, Mike Ash, says the board will now have decide how to use the funding.(Click arrow for audio or right click to download)Ash and board chair, Jenny Versteeg, stressed that no decision has been made on the North Huron accommodation review but the funding does give the board more options.
Mike Ash Response to Lisa Bieman's Letter
This was in my JUNK box for some time, I think my e mail program appropriately filed it. This is the original, unadulterated e mail, so spelling and grammatical errors are not mine. In some ways, this is akin to an auto responder.
Lisa
I am sorry that you feel that the ARC process has been misrepresented. That was certainly not our intent.First, I must emphasize that no decision has been made regarding the schools reviewed in the North East Central Huron ARC. That decision will not be made until June 23. Your views, along with the views of others may still be heard by the Trustees attheir regular board meetings. On May 12 the Board will be meeting at Wingham P.S. specifically to provide an opportunity for delegations to be heard.The ARC process was designed to provide input from the public. That took place over the course of six meetings between November and March. The next phase of accommodation review was the input from staff. The staff report was provided at the last Boardmeeting. Staff are must ensure Trustees are as informed as possible regarding decisions related to accommodation review. To that end we must ensure that our recommendations take into account the education of the students, the Board's fiscal reality andour experiences in the past related to Ministry funding and accommodation reviews. We, as a staff, believe that we have demonstrated the effectiveness and efficiency of the education opportunity provided to Grade 7 and 8 students in a secondary setting. We also know that, as of this date, the Ministry has not announced any funding for construction of a new school. We applied for funding in the fall of 2008 and our application, along with applications from across the province, are still under review. We also know, based on our experience in Goderich and St. Marys, that the Ministry requires us to use available excess spaces in dealing with our school consolidations. We would not be doing our job as staff if we did not present Trustees with a numberof options and the costs associated with those options. While the staff do agree with building a new school in the north Huron area, our experience leads us to disagree with the members of the ARC with respect to what the Board can afford and what theMinistry will fund.I encourage you make your views known to the Trustees as they continue the dialogue between now and June 23.Mike Ash
Lisa
I am sorry that you feel that the ARC process has been misrepresented. That was certainly not our intent.First, I must emphasize that no decision has been made regarding the schools reviewed in the North East Central Huron ARC. That decision will not be made until June 23. Your views, along with the views of others may still be heard by the Trustees attheir regular board meetings. On May 12 the Board will be meeting at Wingham P.S. specifically to provide an opportunity for delegations to be heard.The ARC process was designed to provide input from the public. That took place over the course of six meetings between November and March. The next phase of accommodation review was the input from staff. The staff report was provided at the last Boardmeeting. Staff are must ensure Trustees are as informed as possible regarding decisions related to accommodation review. To that end we must ensure that our recommendations take into account the education of the students, the Board's fiscal reality andour experiences in the past related to Ministry funding and accommodation reviews. We, as a staff, believe that we have demonstrated the effectiveness and efficiency of the education opportunity provided to Grade 7 and 8 students in a secondary setting. We also know that, as of this date, the Ministry has not announced any funding for construction of a new school. We applied for funding in the fall of 2008 and our application, along with applications from across the province, are still under review. We also know, based on our experience in Goderich and St. Marys, that the Ministry requires us to use available excess spaces in dealing with our school consolidations. We would not be doing our job as staff if we did not present Trustees with a numberof options and the costs associated with those options. While the staff do agree with building a new school in the north Huron area, our experience leads us to disagree with the members of the ARC with respect to what the Board can afford and what theMinistry will fund.I encourage you make your views known to the Trustees as they continue the dialogue between now and June 23.Mike Ash
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