Saturday, February 28, 2009

facebook Discussions

Again, these are posts from facebook. If ARC or anyone has a problem regarding the posting of these discussions please contact me, and I can take down the threads. I have removed names to ensure privacy.

My issue is, most people are coming to this blog WANTING information posted, or at least updates, even though I have asked to be on the email list, that has not happened. If a blog is to be effective, then information must be at hand. Invitations have gone out to others if they wish to post.

I encourage people to join the facebook group, but also can understand due to facebook's TOS, that some people do feel uncomfortable.

I have taken the liberty of posting these discussions here. The "I" is not my writing, these are personal views, and not necessarily mine.

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Excellent posts made. Completely agree with all your points. I like "We just have a bigger back yard now". That is, if the "community school" proposal goes through. As for a middleschool of 7,8,9, (a few posts down) well, as someone mentioned at the ARC meeting, schools would still have to be closed. Don't quote me but wasn't that two schools that would be closed in that scenario (a scenario of just a middle school, not with Grade 9's)? Also, if every child is going to the same school and are "clustered", their friends would most likely be in the same "cluster". Classes change even in the small community schools, some are put into split classes, some are not. This gives shy children opportunity to make new friends as well as keep old ones and branch out. Some of my daughter's best friends were made at Brownies and Guides, and camps, not at school.


wroteat 10:32pm on February 21st, 2009
Knowing our neighbours does not happen because of the schools it happens because we get involved in our communities. It means we, the adults take the extra step to get to know one another and invite our communties to us.


wroteat 10:32pm on February 21st, 2009
Knowing the classroom sizes can NOT be larger than what they are now gives me piece of mind. As much I can appreciate that children bond through school I also know children who are relentlessly bullied and have taken some unfortunate extremes to end the taunting by their classmates. Having alternative classrooms may assist in ending one child's misery. Children have the ability to make friends. We as parents are responsible in finding ways to support those friendships. It may means sleep overs and play dates. Being in class should not be the only means of creating a lasting friendship. In my opinion having more student to learn from and to relate to creates many more opportunities for our children to grow as individuals and also gain important lessons. Our small communities that we are trying to save are still small communities. We just have a bigger backyard now.

wroteat 10:26pm on February 21st, 2009
The push behind was idea was simple, to show the board we are united in not wanting our children to go to high school before they should. It should them that our tax dollars in small towns are no different than tax dollars spent somewhere else. We wanted to give them an alternative, which in my opinion is a great idea but more importantly it forces a new plan of action then sending our children to high school.I completely understand you reservations about the children who do not adjust well in new places, I also have a son who had a difficult time adjusting. My son also relies on assistance as he struggles with his fine and gross motor skills. I have to wait on our schools turn to have access to the people needed to assist him. This wait would be shorted for him and the center being newer and more accessible would mean my son's needs would be met as the problems arose, rather than catered to when our school had enough of a problem to warrant attention.


wroteat 3:20pm on February 21st, 2009
I'm curious as to how they would handle all of the children for each grade throughout the years. For example, I have an extremely shy child (it's taken him 5 months to get used to a small day care center). So when he goes into pre-kindergarten, kindergarten, etc. are his classmates going to change every year so that he has to start all over again making new friends. Part of what was nice growing up in a small school was that you could make friends, best friends and get to stay with them throughout your elementary years. I think it would be really tough on the younger kids (up to say grade 5) to have to get separated every year. It would put unneeded stress on them which would make it harder to learn. Anyone know how that would work??

(Toronto, ON) wroteat 2:03pm on February 21st, 2009
Sorry.. They should have more than one plan! When we moved to the area it was because of the small town ideas of having the kids walk to school etc... I suggested at one of the meetings I'm in favor of a Jr. High School for grade 7-8-9 ... Worked well for our over crowding problem in the states...More ideas please don't put all your backing behind a idea without looking at every option and making a educated decision based on facts.

wroteat 11:45am on February 17th, 2009
At the meeting they clarified that they would be lay offs since they would not be requiring four secretarys, four principles, four janitors, etc. But they also indicated that if you are a teacher you work for the board of education, which means you may be placed anywhere within their district. So if someone who has worked there for 10 years doesn't get a job at the "super" school then they could be transfered somewhere else....which would lead me to believe that job placement is based on seniority.....but I could have misread their coment.


wroteat 1:10pm on February 9th, 2009
I should clarify my last comment. I want teachers to realize it's a privilege to teach, not a right. Therefore, defacto jobs in my opinion, would follow the status quo. Unfortunately, this school will not be for my children if it goes through, but for the children whom it will impact, let us hope that a hiring process and not automatic placement happens for teachers as well as principals.
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wroteat 1:05pm on February 9th, 2009
I just hope, that all everyone has to go through an actual hiring process, and doesn't get there by "de facto".
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wroteat 7:58pm on February 6th, 2009
With so many schools closing, not sure what happens to all their jobs? I know there will be more classrooms etc but I am not sure what that will mean for the part-timers??


wroteat 12:46pm on February 6th, 2009
I may be jumping the gun again, but I am wondering about teachers and principals. . . would existing teachers be automatically be employed, or would there actually be an application process. . . .
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wroteat 9:19am on February 6th, 2009
This new school is not only providing our children with a building of excellence it is giving them a beginning to a modern future. One that staff have a willingness to fight to teach in, one that they can demonstrate their skills because of the resources available. Because our numbers are small does not indicate a lack of intelligence nor does it define what our children are entitled to. Lets not allow our small communities to be small minded because of our location. Lets think big and give our children the biggest chance of all for the best education possible.

(Kitchener, ON) wroteat 5:59pm on February 5th, 2009
For those that want to see the Presentation, you can see it by clicking on the following link:http://www.amdsb.ca/accommodation/CENH-Arc/documents/CENH-ArcPresentation.pdf
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(Kitchener, ON) wroteat 3:37pm on February 5th, 2009
When and where should I go to hear the newest ideas on the proposal?

Another Post From facebook.

(Taken directly from facebook, again ARC, if you feel this is not apropos, please let me know and I will remove the post).



I figured I would try to address some of the questions/concerns that were expressed at last night's ARC meeting.First of all, let me state how happy I was that we finally were able to engage the public. It is good to know that the community does care about education.As for some of the questions...here goes....One theme that kept coming up was the concern over behavioural issues...the concern that kids with behavioural issues would be lost in the crowd. I would expect that each of the four schools has a very small number of students that have behavioural problems. These are currently being dealt with by the regular teachers and principles. With combining the four schools, there may be sufficient need to have a teacher that specializes in dealing with these students. I have a friend in Mississauga that is exactly that at her school....she assists those students that are academically ok but socially have issues. So in the end my belief is that having the larger enrollement would actually help those students.This bringis me to a similar point, and that is students with learning difficulties. We have all heard of the example of our speech Patholigist. I spoke to a parent today that has a son who benefits from the use of a speech patholigist. Unfortunately they are lucky to see one through the school once a month. This parent pays a private speech patholigist $95 an hour to make up the other times that their child should be seen. By bringing the four schools together, there would be less time for the Speech Patholigist to be driving from school to school, etc. Again, greater population, greater access to specialized resources.The issue of bussing was raised last night. There are rules when it comes to the iissue of length of bus ride...and those rules will continue to be followed. The kids must not be any longer then 1 hour on the bus to get to school. In terms of safety...report afer report concludes that busses are extremely safe. In terms of costs, yes there will be increased costs, but there will be some savings as well. Students will not have to be bussed to outside programs such as the gifted student program. The increased student population will warrant that program being taught in the new school.In terms of size....a school of 750 to 900 students is not a huge school. It would probably classify as an average (or slightly over average) size when compared to the rest of the province. In addition, one must remember that the individual class rooms will stay the same. Classroom size is mandated by the province. As for the comments that the students or parents would not know anyone....again, this is entirely incorrect. Even before this process, I along with my children knew families from Wingham, Blyth, Turnberry. My kids play hockey in wingham, will be playing soccer in Blyth. The issue around asking for a school that is second to none. Well on that topic, I personally believe nothing is too good when it comes to my childs education. Now that being said, yes I realize there are realities when it comes to the fiscal side of the equation. However, it may surprise us how much we would be able to achieve if we ask.That brings us the the issue of funding. I am very confident that if the community as a whole supports this proposal, the funding will be there. The province has been very clear, the almagamation of schools is a preferred option. They are funding the almagamation of 2 and 3 schools currently...so with a proposal of 4 schools coming together, I am confident that it will be looked upon favourably. However the province won't be able to pick up the entire bill...but the school board needs to remember that they will be getting considerable savings from the closure of the 4 aging schools and hence need to be at the table. And there will be opportunities for other funding partners as well. With making the school a "Green Initiative" the federal government should be at the table. I believe that there is a reason for the local governments to be at the table as well, due to the fact that it will be community benefit to the facility, and not just for the students. And lastly, there will be private dollars as well. If the local community is firmly behind the proposal, then private industry will want to help out, becasue it demonstrates their good corporate citizenship.In terms of the 7 and 8's going into the high school, I sense an overwhelming opposition to that scenario. I along with the other members of the ARC share in that view. Hence the reason that we are doing our best to come up with a united effort to offer something to the Board so the high school option does not happen.Now lastly, I would like to comment on the wish by many to keep things the way they are. It has been made extremely clear to the members of the ARC that this is not an option. School or schools are going to be closing. It is an extremely painful process to go through a school closure. My belief is, if we know that at least one, and very likely 2 are closing, why don't we actually try and gain some benefit out of that painful decision. No one wants to see their school close....as they are all fantastic schools. However, if reality dictates that they are going to close, well lets try and get something positive out of the process. Let try and get a modern, safe, environmentally friendly school....the North Maitland Educational Centre of Excellence.

Grade Seven and Eight's In High School From facebook

One of the factors behind the North Maitland Educational Centre of Excellence was the concern that there was a move a foot for the Board of Ed to close schools and move the 7 and 8's into FE Madill. From the dozens of parents and community members, there is strong opposition to this approach, of which I share their concern. As much as the Board tries to lessen my fears by telling me not to worry, the kids are kept separate...I my apprehension is strong. I would like to know what others out there feel about this possible scenario....do you share my concern?


Post #2
wroteon February 6, 2009 at 9:35pm
The possibility that this could even be a reality makes me sick to my stomach. Children should not be expected to learn in an environment not suited to them. I hope that parents out there will demand better for their children. If only they knew what uniting together could do for our communities. Our numbers are small which is why our voices need to be even louder.IMO


Post #3
(Kitchener, ON) wroteon February 7, 2009 at 1:21am
The whole uniting thing is remarkable. What we have been able to accomplish so far by coming together gives me hope. Now we need the public at large to also join with us. If there is true united force, the trustees would have no option of following our vision.

Post #4
wroteon February 13, 2009 at 10:13am
I vote NO to grade 7 & 8 's in the high school!

Post #5
(London, ON) wroteon February 13, 2009 at 10:44pm
Well with out the idea of a new school, it looks like all roads lead to the 7 and 8 going to the highschool.


Post #6
wroteon February 17, 2009 at 11:55am
I am opposed to having the 7 & 8's at the high school. I personally would be devastated if that is the outcome!


Post #7
wroteon February 18, 2009 at 6:02am
I vote NO to grade 7 & 8's in the high school as well!!


Post #8
wroteon February 18, 2009 at 1:51pm
I vote NO to the grade 7 & 8's attending the high school. How can we possibly think that's a good idea. Children grow up way to quickly now as it is without forcing them to be in contact with the older children on a day to day basis. I understand the trustees think that they will be kept separate but I don't see how that can be possible at all times.

facebook~~Ideas For New School

I am going to cut and copy some issues that have been addressed on facebook, for those who haven't signed up for the group on facebook, or for those who are not on facebook.

If this goes against protocol of ARC, then this post may be taken down.

For privacy issues I will not post names.
Post #1
(Kitchener, ON) wroteon February 6, 2009 at 12:25pm
I figured I would start a thread to generate discussion around what we want to have in the new proposed school. So far in the discussions, I have heard many good ideas.....from a full fledged Music and Arts program, to science and computer labs, to before and after school childcare. So...what are you ideas? What kind of resources do we want our kids to have access to. Don't be afraid to dream big...

Post #2
You wroteon February 6, 2009 at 1:08pm
Solar panels, small wind turbine, green roof, geothermal heating, green wall (like at Toyota), partially strawbale, insulated concrete forms. . . the greener the building the better. Drama program.Access to "gifted learning" for all children. The more we value our children, the more value our children receive.

Post #3
wroteon February 6, 2009 at 3:50pm
I would love to see a swimming pool... indoor , salt water. Regular swimming lessons throughout the year. Lets make learning to swim a priority. I realize there is a pool in Wingham, but it isn't salt water and if we want to talk about the future, chemicals are out (as much as possible). I bring this up because my 2 eldest kids each have issues with chlorine. You said think big, so this would be one of my dreams !!!!


Post #4
You wroteon February 6, 2009 at 4:42pm
Michele, I hear you with the chlorine~~~~it's so toxic!


Post #5
(Kitchener, ON) wroteon February 7, 2009 at 1:19am
omg!!! the chlorine at the wingham pool is a killer. Every time we swim there, my son's eyes are red for two days. I like all the Green stuff. What a legacy to leave.


Post #6
You wroteon February 7, 2009 at 9:00am
What about filtered water~~~without chlorine or flouride or added chemicals, right now I forget the name of the "descaler" added to town water that clears the pipes. Add a huge softener with media guard and possible a reverse osmosis treatment, for water to be ingested. Many health related issues when it comes to municipally treated water. . .

Post #7
you wroteon February 7, 2009 at 7:20pm
A separate play yard for the kindergarten children.Internet cameras set up in each classroom so parents can view their children from work via the computer as they have them in daycares.A workout space for kids and parents to get healthy and invite in communities.A special needs resource center. The two organizations have a lot in common with each other and could be beneficial.outdoor equipment the children can actually use through the winter months.Okay, I'm sure there is more but I have been hit in the head with paintballs all day and I am tired.


Post #8
(London, ON) wroteon February 11, 2009 at 1:18pm
love the idea of the camera in the classrooms,wouldn't that be neat as a parent to checkin and see what is going on.or even the teachers could monitor this over lunch times,

Post #9
wroteon February 13, 2009 at 10:11am
I agreed with a comment at last nights meeting, that the best isn't necessarily better. With alot of the high tech gadgets available I agree that you need to step back and look at the basic essentials needed for their education. If there was to be a pool and theatre, etc. does this not take away from the community involvement? What happens to our local pool if their is one at the school? Why not look at salt water into the current pools? Would this also mean that those children would be seculded at the school, since they have everything there and not experience field trips and valuable community involvement?

Post #10
You wroteon February 13, 2009 at 11:00am
I agree, why not look at current pools? Trickle down effect, possibly that having the best would make current facilities (schools, pools, whatever) start thinking about new options, could be a point. Another person at the Blyth Parent Meeting had the same worries of "disconnect" from the community. I do agree. One thing that would have to be put into place would be field trips/workshops to local venues, be it the Blyth Festival, Thresher's, (those are the ones in Blyth, I am not sure where you are located, and you would have an idea of what are important community activities in your area). This is just my opinion, but you make very valid points. :)

Post #11
wroteon February 16, 2009 at 8:12pm
I visited a day care that has the camera's in each room. It was possible for the parent's to look in any time they wanted. It would be a great way for the children to be able to stay informed with school if they missed a lesson because of a sick day as well. It could maybe help them also if many school days were missed due to snow. It could help parents stay in tune with what the kids are learning and alleviate any abuse allegations.In looking at what our schools needs we need to consider what we have already and where our children's education is lacking and where cut backs are going to directly in pack our children. Cafeteria food and hungry children are an issue so why not create a green house the children can assist in growing food for the school in, which would dub as a science lab and a job site for after school??After school care/before school care. Why not include a daycare for siblings? This creates not only a lasting place for students to stay (which is what the board wants so we don't lose our kids to other forms of schooling) but it prevents more running around for our children and shortens their over all day.Specialty classes and Help.The size of our towns are the reason we do not have access to specialized tools/people. Being a larger school will draw those people to us and having them on site invites more opportunities to utilize them.Out door seating for the kids that would allow the teachers to invite children outside to learn on nice days and gives the children a place to study while outside. (This would include picnic tables and a chalk board and a roof)A covered area to run. Getting enough gym time was always an issue. Having an outside dry shed to run around in would be so beneficial and wonderful for large family events and could be rented out.A volunteer car pool for parents.. lets attempt to bus our own children when possible. Let's get them off the buses and show how we can work together as a community.Just some thoughts as I am sure many of you have.

Post #12
wroteon February 24, 2009 at 9:25pm
If a new school were to be built I think having separate wings created that could be closed down if enrollment was low would be a good investment. I think having a separate heating/electrical system would also mean if there was a fire it would not close the entire school. It could also be rented out as it would have an independent source of heat and hydro. Perhaps building a few smaller, community buildings and one main campus building to be shared (gym/library/offices) might be a good idea as well. Again if one building had issues it would not affect the others. It could also be closed up and cost the school very little to maintain if the need ever arose.The entire reason this has begun is due to low enrollment. Preparing for that for the future seems like a wise investment.

Wednesday, February 11, 2009

If I am not posting, it means that I have not been privy to information to post. (I have not recieved any emails or such that pertain to the issues at hand, or minutes from any parent-ARC meetings).

Comments are now open, meaning you just have to do a word verification and click on anonymous if you wish to post a question or actually have information.

Friday, February 6, 2009

Children ARE Entitled To Better

This new school is not only providing our children with a building of excellence it is giving them a beginning to a modern future. One that staff have a willingness to fight to teach in, one that they can demonstrate their skills because of the resources available. Because our numbers are small does not indicate a lack of intelligence nor does it define what our children are entitled to. Lets not allow our small communities to be small minded because of our location. Lets think big and give our children the biggest chance of all for the best education possible.

Submitted by Mommy2-3

Wednesday, February 4, 2009

Good News~ Student and Teacher Involvement In ARC Discussions!

North Huron Students and Teachers To Be More Involved in ARC Discussions

http://www.1017theone.ca/news.php?cat_id=1

Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:05 am

"Superintendent Mike Ash says the Avon Maitland District School Board will grant a request from the North Huron Arc that staff and students have input into the Accommodation Review process in their school community.

Ash says the board's policy excludes teachers and students because they don't want to put teachers in a conflict-of-interest situation and they don't want to politicize what can become a very emotional process.

Ash adds the board has agreed to work with the ARC in providing that input in a way that doesn't compromise either the teachers or students."

Parent Meeting With ARC~~~Blyth

This is a cursory and incomplete list of information that was brought to the attention of parents and the community last night at Blyth Public School.

This idea of a "community school" is not "official" yet, as we still do not know what the board will recommend and what scenarios they may put forth, which would be in April.

The idea of having a bus trip for parents, or community members to go to Essex to view an idea of what our proposed "community school" may look like, was put forth.

Alex, a parent in the community, said it is very important where the school is located. (Which, many parents agree). The response was that the location was to be determined by the board, not ARC.

Alex mentioned that many citizens without children are not in favour of a "super school", to which was replied, "Where are these people? This is why we are having the meeting, they should be coming out." (Paraphrase).

A question was asked regarding the possibility of a middle school for grades seven and eight. This question was answered that with the problems of declining enrollment, there would still be issues of school closures to incorporate this type of middle school, and again a busing issue for that scenario.

What about the seven and eight grades going to a high school? At this point, Madill could take in 190 students, and CHSS could take in 245 students of the grades seven and eight. This would potentially split Blyth in half, and many parents are against this idea, why have our impressionable younger children thrust into a high school setting early? There are many negative ramifications to this solution.

Alex made a comment "Who is ARC representing?" Which is a fundamental question that is very important, (he posed very good questions at the meeting). ARC responded that they were "hoping to be representing the kids" and their best interests.

To continue maintenance on the schools up for closure is roughly one third the cost of a new one. One point that was made, was that all schools need to become one hundred percent accessible to all (wheelchair lift for the stage, ramps. . .), and it is cost prohibitive. These moneys would be better spent on a new facility rather than patching up older schools that are essentially "bricks and mortar".


One benefit of having a new school is the idea of frequent air changes in the school itself with new HVAC, which would make the environment more healthy than that of the existing schools.

More to be added to later. . .

"Super School" Idea in North Huron Received Well

http://www.1017theone.ca/news.php?cat_id=1

Wednesday, February 4, 2009 7:05 am

"Parents had a chance to learn more about a proposed "super school" to replace several North Huron schools. One of the public meetings was held last night at Wingham Public School.
The Accommodation Reveiw Committee showed the plans for the school that could house over 750 students. Parents raised concerns regarding where the school would be located and where the money would come from. ARC Committee member Grant Curry says most of the feedback was positive. Curry is also encouraging people to attend the next public meeting scheduled for February 12th at East Wawanosh at 7 p.m."

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

Ideas. . .

Here is an interesting link on Green Schools: http://www.greenschools.net/report/index.html

Although American in origin, the premise could be adopted for the proposed school.

Ideas for building material could incorporate straw bale construction, insulated concrete forms, living roof . . . This would not only give jobs to our area, but also branch out and be a "the school" that other's look to for inspriation. Just maybe it would trickle down as someone mentioned tonight to the public highschools in the area?

I mentioned at the meeting about Malcolm Gladwell and his book "The Outliers". I think that it would be apropos to post a podcast from CBC radio: http://www.cbc.ca/thenextchapter/ . If you scroll down on the page, please click on the podcast of Malcolm Gladwell, it barely scratches the surface, but is worth listening to. In his book The Outliers, he delves into the concept of genius. Now if this modus operandi, treating every child as a genius (regardless of socio-economic, or perceived capacity), has the benefit of success to each child (to really reduce and minimize this theory), could this school be a venue for this method? If this proposed school could give more to children, a light to every child, would it not be wonderful, if we had this opportunity? I would recommend all of Gladwell's books to anyone, but this book especially hits home, especially given that we may be able to start with a clean slate. Value needs to be given to every child and value is not only instilled at home, but in a school setting.

One issue of separation anxiety was brought up at tonight's meeting. I think that all children will most likely go through a period of adjustment, some may take longer. One tactic that could be brought forth is the idea of a "peer buddy" system, for riding the bus or even during school hours to help make the transition, especially for the younger children. This would add to "community" within the school atmosphere.

Two days ago, I was not sold on the idea of a larger school model, now I think that it might be one of the best decisions we as parents and guardians could ever make.

As mentioned before, please feel free to comment, disagree, or send me something to post, we all want input. The only stupid question is the one that is not asked. It is not my intent to just post my ideas on this blog (I have my own soapbox for that), so please feel free to send ideas, the more the better :)

Article From The Blyth Citizen

ARC suggests super school http://www.northhuron.on.ca/news.htm (Jan 29, 2009)

By Brenda Radford

"The third public mandated meeting of the Accommodation Review Committee for five schools along the Hwy. 4 corridor, considered the North East Central Huron group, was held at Wingham Public School on Thursday, Jan. 22. The schools in question are Hullett Central in Londesborough, Blyth Public, East Wawanosh Public in Belgrave, Wingham Public and Turnberry Central.This meeting proved to be an exciting change from the previous two. School groups had been encouraged to ‘think outside the box’ when presenting scenarios. Since the last meeting the community support persons from all five schools had been burning the midnight oil and the scenario they presented to everyone gathered in the Wingham school auditorium was just that kind. Members of all the ARC groups recognized that these reviews can become quite territorial. Although each school area is a separate entity, in a rural area as small as the one under review, the people involved now have and will continue to have contact through business, social activities, sports, etc. A community support member from each school took part in their scenario, the North Maitland Educational Centre of Exellence. David Sparling, Mark Beaven, Robert Hunking, Sue Underwood and Connie Goodall presented a concept paper for the construction of ‘a super school’. They proposed that in 2010 construction begin on a ‘state of the art’ educational facility to accommodate all pupils from Blyth, East Wawanosh, Wingham and Turnberry. They suggested everyone affected should have input into how this school should be rather than accepting an engineer’s concept. They talked about the latest in classrooms and teaching areas, a cafeteria, a computer lab and library, expanded arts programs, etc. Their united front was to impress upon the trustees that the children’s future is what is important and their desire to keep Grades 7 and 8 out of area high schools.Although this presentation still needs fine tuning they proposed a 120,000 to 150,000-square foot school to house 1,000 students. Such a school would cost in t he area of $175 a square foot or $21 to $26 million.The presenters encouraged the trustees to consider the prospect from a positive outlook, rather than looking for negatives.Following the presentation, AMDSB superintendent Mike Ash noted that the board is currently lobbying the governments for money for North Huron schools. This was in contrast to the previous meeting when trustees seemed to suggest that no money was likely to be forthcoming for new schools in a rural area of declining enrollment.A funding model was included in the presentation. Some, they suggested, would come from three areas of government. The municipal representative from Morris-Turnberry, Jim Nelemans, however remarked that the group was presumptuous in assuming that the rest of the ratepayers in his constituency would be willing to fund this school.Other monies would be found from the sale of the properties of the closed schools, operational savings, private donations and grants. For example, they see the school incorporating all modern environmental aspects which would qualify them for “green” grants.The community-support persons also proposed that teachers be allowed to be a part of the consultation process recognizing that their input would be invaluable. Currently board/union employees are advised to stay clear of this review process. However, as the community would be asked to give input, teachers are a part of that community, it was noted.The ARC members asked for an extension of time, until March 12 to add details to their proposal. They hoped to take the proposal back to their communities to clarify the details to the general public and get input.It was impressed upon the trustees/board members that they need to help the process with the facts and figures represented of them. Ash assured them of that support.Trustees Colleen Schenk and Shelley Kaastra commended the group for a visionary proposal and a comfortable, thought-provoking evening.Hullett Central Public School the only school to date, which had not done so already gave a presentation worked on by SAC and ARC members. The presentation included a letter of commendation from Brian Cretney, an author who found his recent visit to the school a memorable one.Alex Westerhout, a Hullett School parent, asked why Hullett had been left out of this proposal. Hunking gave a three-fold answer. The scenario was based on not having Grade 7 and 8 pupils not going to F.E. Madill. Hullett pupils would reasonably go into Clinton high schools and the Hullett ARC members have always questioned why they were included in this review anyway. Moreover, it stands to reason that if a location for the new school were in the Blyth area, Hullett might be involved. This proposal is an expanded version of the one proposed by Turnberry at a previous meeting.David Sparling stated that “Everybody here wants to get something better for our kids. We need genuine support to reach a most responsible end (to this review process). We need to hear from the communities, ‘Are we going down the right path?’The next meeting will be held on Feb. 12 at East Wawanosh."

Enrollment Data ARC ~~ Projected and Links To Accommodation Review

The intention of this post is to encapsulate the highlights and issues from past meetings, they reside on the yourschools.ca website as well, but obviously, judging by blog traffic, some people might want the links here as well. Hopefully this forum will allow for discussion as well as viewing of the information, for those who are new to the discussion and those who have been previously engaged.

http://www.yourschools.ca/accommodation/CENH-Arc/documents/ARCEnrolmentData.pdf

This link gives an idea of student enrollment in the public schools and projected trends, for those who have not already seen the numbers.


The link below has minutes of meetings of the Central East North Huron Area Accommodation Review.

http://www.yourschools.ca/accommodation/CENH-Arc/CENHarc.htm


These links are available from the http://www.yourschools.ca/ site, yet, it is nice to have them mirrored here as well. As they were in PDF format, I was unable to copy and paste. I encourage everyone to read these over if they have not already.


Also a quote from the website:

http://www.yourschools.ca/accommodation/


"2008 - 2009 Accommodation Review - November 4, 2008
Select this link for the North Huron ARC
Select this link for the Usborne Central ARC

Board Identifies Two Areas for Accommodation ReviewAfter receiving and discussing the Preliminary Pupil Accommodation Analysis for 2008 – 2009, Trustees have voted to begin the Accommodation Review process in two areas. The Board will begin an accommodation review and establish an Accommodation Review Committee for the area including Blyth Public School, East Wawanosh Public School, Hullett Central Public School, Turnberry Central Public School, and Wingham Public School. The Board also decided to begin an accommodation review process and establish an Accommodation Review Committee for Usborne Central Public School.

Board Policy No.18 – Pupil Accommodation Reviews, requires an annual preliminary analysis of accommodation data, which may include:
the Ministry of Education capacity for each school,
the level of actual occupancy as a percentage of Ministry of Education capacity,
the current and projected enrolment in each school,
other information or special circumstances that the director of education may deem relevant, and recommendations to the board regarding which school(s), if any, should be placed under review and the circumstances that support this review.


An accommodation review may result in such changes as: changes to the grades offered in a school, closures, and/or any other practical solutions to overcrowded, underutilized, or inadequate school facilities. Over the past four years the provincial government has added significant amounts of money to the education system in Ontario, and this has benefited the Avon Maitland District School Board. However, cost pressures continue to exist. Since the 2001-2002 school year enrolments have declined by 13.9% in the elementary panel. Over a 10-year period enrolments are projected to decline by a further 6.5% in the elementary schools.


Deciding to undertake an accommodation review in a community or series of communities must be based on many different factors. They may include:

Current and projected enrollment of the schools in relation to school rate capacity.
Condition of buildings (including accessibility for the disabled), and anticipated costs to maintain the buildings.


The ability of trustees and staff to adequately supply information during an accommodation review to communities as needed where multiple communities are identified and the readiness of the communities to engage in a dialogue with the board about accommodation related issues.
In 2007 - 2008 there was significant excess capacity in these North Huron region elementary schools.The enrolment for the region where Usborne Central Public School is located along with Exeter Public School, South Perth Centennial Public School and Stephen Central Public School also continues to decline. Over the past five years the combined enrolments in these four elementary schools has dropped 22% and is projected to decline another 6.4% in 2008 - 2009. Over the past five years the enrolment in Usborne Central Public School has dropped 38% and is projected to decline another 6.4% in 2008 - 2009."

Monday, February 2, 2009

"North Maitland Educational Centre Of Excellence" Post #1

This blog is intended to be a means of communication between those interested in the "North Maitland Educational Centre Of Excellence." This is an area where the residents of the proposed school can derive concrete answers and information. The idea that a school serving the North Maitland area of Huron County, Ontario, will take in approximately seven hundred and fifty students from JK to 8, is a beneficial one. Parents, grandparents, guardians, and children, will have the opportunity for more diverse learning experiences and the ability to access more special needs services. The "North Maitland Educational Centre of Excellence" will be a springboard for our children to thrive in a modern facility brimming with opportunity for success. This proposed school would replace Wingham, Turnberry, Blyth and East Wawanosh schools. Hullet School is out of the district area, and would not be a part of the "North Maitland Educational Centre Of Excellence."

Please refer to the information located here for your perusal:

http://www.yourschools.ca/accommodation/CENH-Arc/documents/CENH-ArcPresentation.pdf

Comments will be moderated, and ISP's will be tracked as to prevent spam, questions are always welcome, and moderators will try to the best of our ability and information at hand to answer the questions. Posts may be edited by moderators to reflect timely information.